First, the geek alert:
The following ramblings are a product review meant for photographers. Unless you’re interested in geeky technical photography talk, come back soon or scroll below to see all sorts of fancy photographs :) I try to avoid putting much of this stuff up here, but wanted to review a new product for some photographer friends…
Introduction:
Ok, where do I start? After a few years of building up our lens lineup, buying and selling lenses and fine-tuning what we work with, it seemed that I would be in a constant phase of changing what works for us. About 2 years ago, I found system that we've been happy with, so for the last 2-ish years, Amy and I have been shooting a lineup that looks like this:
Tony: Full-frame camera, Sigma 15Fisheye, Canon 24L, Canon 35L, Canon 45T/S, Canon 85L, Canon 70-200 2.8IS
Amy: Full-frame camera, Canon 16-35, Sigma 50 1.4, Canon 135L, Canon 100 macro
Now, obviously we switch lenses here and there and do whatever it took to get a shot, but without a doubt, I used my 35L and 85L the overwhelming majority of the time. For weddings, I probably used those two lenses for 75-ish% of the day. They have been my bread and butter for two years. The only things I love more than my 85L are my wife, my family and my 35L.
One of the newest additions to our lineup (when I say new, I mean about 1.5-2 years old) was the Sigma 50 1.4. When I bought that lens, I loved it immediately. It had some focusing issues on my 5D classic, but on my 5D2 it was pristine. Quality wise, it was the best 50mm I've ever tried, including ALL the Canon versions. It was like Sigma just all of the sudden decided that they were tired of being 2nd best, but still wanted to charge less. To this day, I still get giddy thinking about how great that lens is, and it's actually LESS money than the Canon 50 1.2.
Which brings me, of course, to the Sigma 85 1.4. As you can imagine, after our great experience with the Sigma 50, I was super excited to try this lens out. So, when I went to WPPI in March and saw the Sigma booth, I immediately went and took their prototype for a test drive. I was EXTREMELY underwhelmed. It felt cheap, slow, and the images looked soft. I pretty much disqualified the lens then and there. Lucky for us, that was only the prototype.
When the Sigma 85 1.4 starting shipping, the glowing reviews started pouring in. I bought the Sigma 85 1.4 with a few qualifications. First, I wanted to use it in a wide variety of situations before making up my mind. Second, the 85L had such a proven track record with me that the Sigma was on a serious trial-basis. Third, I was going to thoroughly inspect the focusing capabilities as this is probably the biggest weakness of third-party lenses. So, after buying the lens, I've used it a TON this week. We had a commercial shoot, an engagement session and a wedding. Here's what I found:
The Good (stuff that's better than the Canon 85L):
This section could be long. In short, the lens is awesome. Here's a point-by point recap of the things I love about it:
- The Lens Looks Cool. This sounds silly, but when you spend as much time with your lenses as I do, it matters. There are a lot of photographers out there and when someone sees you working with an 85mm that's NOT the 85L, it can raise suspicions about professionalism. That sounds dumb and elitist I realize. But to me it matters. And the Sigma 85 1.4 looks really legit. It's finish is new for Sigma and it grips easily. The hood locks in place like the Sigma 50 1.4 hood and seems like it should stay in place for a while. To be frank, it looks like a really nice Nikon lens... sort of like the Nikon 24-70. Not at all like the Nikon 70-200, which I still think looks phallic.
- The Focus is FAST. As I mentioned above, this was a big area of concern for me after testing the prototype a few months ago. To be honest, I was VERY impressed with the focus speed. On a side by side comparison with the Sigma 85 1.4 vs. the Canon 85L, I found that from minimum focus distance to infinity focus the Sigma was about 2x faster. This was using the very scientific 'one-onethousand-two-onethousand' method. The Sigma clocked in at an even 'one-onethousand' and the Canon was at a 'two-onethous'. I was very impressed.

Focus was very good and fast here. Shot @2.0, in the past I would've pulled out the 135 for this shot.
- The Focus is GOOD. After the first thing I shot with the lens, a commercial shoot, I was a tiny bit worried. For one subject in particular, I was having trouble locking focus. So, for the next two sessions, I paid extra attention to see if that was a mistake or if it continued. It seems to have been an exception. Since then, and especially at the wedding, the focus was GREAT. Not good, but great. Not only that, but I felt the confidence to use it with moving subjects, which I never felt completely comfortable doing with the 85L, due to it's slow speed.
Lastly, I'll say this important point: The true test of any lens for a wedding photographer is a lens's ability to focus in low light. Well, our recent wedding was quite the opportunity to test this out. The ceremony we shot was metering at ISO 3200, f/1.6, 1/50th of a second or EVEN DARKER in another half of the space. It was outside, after sundown, with little to no lighting where the bride walked in. If ever there was a test for the Sigma 85 1.4, this was it. A moving subject, and EXTREMELY dark environment, and shooting at 1.6. I was very impressed with the lens here and I do not think the Canon 85L would have handled the situation as well. Strike that, I know the 85L wouldn't have kept up. In fact, I wouldn't have used it out of fear for missing the shot.

A pretty tough focusing situation. The Sigma was about as accurate as the 85L here, but did it much faster.
- The Lens is Small-ish and Light-ish and Built Well. I don't know what the official numbers are, but the Sigma 85 1.4 lens is much easier to handle than the Canon 85L. It's not as wide and the rear glass isn't on the extreme edge of the back mount. I felt comfortable and confident with it. And if the Sigma 50 1.4 is any indication, it should be built like a tank. We've dropped our Sigma 50 on concrete 3 times now, including once from about 5 feet up. All with no issues whatsoever.
- The Price. Thanks to Hunt's camera in Massachusetts, I bought this lens for $811. That's so stinkin' cheap for a lens this good I almost can't believe it. The Canon 85L is more than twice as much.
The Bad (stuff that's worse than the Canon 85L):
- It's f/1.4, not f/1.2. Duh. This doesn't really matter to me much. Maybe it does to you.
- The AF/M switch. If you've used the Sigma 50 1.4, I'd imagine that the biggest annoyance you have is that the AF/M focus switch seems to be located in the worst possible spot and is raised significantly off the lens so that you accidentally switch it occasionally. Now, I switch lenses often, so it may happen more to me, but I accidentally disabled AF about 3 times at our last wedding. Now, it's a quick fix and you notice right away, but it is a design flaw in my opinion.
- The Service. One of my biggest considerations in buying Sigma lenses is the service. Regardless of if it's good or bad, it's known to take a few weeks to service a lens. With Canon's CPS program, if we hurt a lens (yes, I talk about my lenses like children), we send it to the doctor on Monday and always have it back Thursday or Friday. With Sigma's 'a few weeks' turnaround, I don't like the idea of having one of my favorite lenses at the doctor for that long. I've rationalized this by saying that if I REALLY needed one, I could buy another lens (after all it's half the price of the 85L) for a few weeks, then return or resell it later.
The Neutral (stuff that is about the same between the Sigma 85 1.4 vs. Canon 85L)
- The Sharpness. I found the Canon 85L to be a very, very, slight bit sharper at 1.4. After that, the lenses are pretty much completely equal on sharpness. The statement about the Canon 85 was always "If you can nail the focus, it's sharp as a tack." Well the Sigma is the same, except for the 'If' part.
- The Look of the images. This one is the biggest stunner to me. Canon's 85L has a look that I've NEVER seen replicated in another lens. Something about it just looks creamy, dreamy and awesome. It's a real thrill to shoot with for that reason. Well, somehow and someway, Sigma nailed this. To say that the images look almost identical would be an understatement. I am completely shocked at how Sigma was able to nail this look. Big kudos there. With that said, the look of images is obviously the same in my opinion.

Shot @ 1.4. I took about 10 versions of this shot because I was used to the 85L being a little jumpy in low contrast subjects. The Sigma nailed 8/10 in focus. The 85L would have probably been around 6/10 in my experience.
Conclusion (what will I do?)
Writing this next sentence is like disowning a child.... The Sigma 85 1.4 is a better lens than the Canon 85L. There, I said it. It's not 'as good', it's actually better. The first thing you need to do is throw aside your idea that the most expensive thing is best. Then look at the pros of the two lenses:
Sigma: Better ergonomics, Better, faster focusing, Smaller, Lighter
Canon: Goes to 1.2, Better AF/M switch, CPS service
Other than the service, the Sigma advantages are the most important to me. Therefore, I'm keeping the Sigma lens. The Canon 85 will either be sold or stay on for our second camera.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask them in the comments...

Interesting results, thanks for the comparison!
Not only are you one of the best photographers I know but you are also one of the most generous. Thank you for the information. Now time to say goodbye to my 85L :)
Thank you for this write up Tony. Wonderfully written and illustrated and full of useful insight. I already have the Siggy 50 and I will be giving this new 85 a very serious look against the new Nikon 85G.
Amazing review.. I have been following this lens and with this review there is no way I cannot go buy it…
Thanks again Mr.Hoffer!
Spot on. These were exactly my thoughts when I tried the lens a couple weeks ago.
I didn’t do any scientific comparisons with the 85L but I was pretty sure that the Sigma was the better lens.
I only spent 3 days with the lens and not on a real wedding but with every thing I tried the lens just performed flawlessly.
The only dowside that I saw was the extreme CA on backlit situations, however nothing that can’t be fixed in post.
Thank you for your insight. I am a Nikon shooter and I was ready to switch from Nikon to Canon becaue of the lenses, particularly the 85L & 35L.
I just come here for the popcorn. :D Excellent write up Tony. Thanks for taking the time. :)
AWESOME. This is exactly the review I was hoping to find for this lens, and to have it come from one of my favourite shooters makes it all the more valuable. Thank you kindly.
So loving this. You probably just saved me a zillion dollars. I vote you do a review on all your lenses. :)
Great review, thanks! I’m pretty sure Johnny Canon will hate you :P
Nice 85 f1.4 review. I have it in Sigma mount and have shot it extensively. It is extremely sharp and very very good at f1.4. I also have the 50 f1.4 and although I have not shit it extensively yet, I do not find the build as good as the 85 and it is not as good wide open. I suspect the bokeh is better with the 85 but haven’t really don a head-to-head yet.
Great wedding stuff, the most creative I have ever seen.
Rick Decker
Tony – would you say that your review would hold pretty true for the Nikon version of this ? would you think that they nailed it for nikon platform as well ?
Thanks so much for this review! I’ve been considering it and this kinda settles it for me. Thanks!
Thanks for a great review Tony. Just when my wife and I settled in on our lens lineup…you’ve got to go and cast doubt on our beloved 85L.
After reading your review and hearing all about it from Spencer, I’m buying it now. :)
Great review. I’ve been pondering purchasing this lens for a while now and you have officially made my mind up. Thanks for sharing!!
This was a very interesting comparison of the two lenses. Can’t wait to try out the Sigma 85 myself. Thanks so much for taking the time to share your thoughts!
Great comparison! I can’t wait to try out the Simgma 85 lens myself. Thanks for taking the time to share your analysis
How are the colors? I’m not a good post processor, so the better the colors out of the camera, the better for me. I’m thinking of selling my 135L (my favorite Lens but the focal length is often too long) and getting this. But the colors and micro contrast on the 135L are so spot on and perfect, I don’t want to lose that.
Does anyone know how this lens would preform for sports? I need an 85 for indoor sports, and the CA of the canon 84/1.8 bothers me.
Great review, Tony! It’s great to see some results in the wild. This’ll go on my wish list for sure.
Thanks for the review! The new Sigma 85 certainly looks like a good lighter-weight alternative to the 85L. By the way, the Hunt’s web site shows the lens at $899, not $811.
Have you tried the Canon 85mm f1.2 with an upgraded focusing screen? I heard that increases your AF accuracy and consistency.
Thank you so much for sharing! It’s funny, I just saw an advertisement for the Sigma 85 and was curious about the quality. I shoot with Nikon and don’t own an 85 yet but I think you’ve just sold me on it! :)
thanks for the detailed comparison – I hope Sigma sends me one for review!
Your review and generosity is so awesome — thank you! I’ve had the Siggy for about a week now and I love it, too. However, in comparison to my 85L, it consistently underexposes by about -2/3 stop; have you experienced this, and if so, how do you deal with it?
Thanks again. Your review was by far the most helpful one for this lens.
I returned this lens after 5 days of testing. Reason – lens hunts lot while AF. It is weirdly jerking AF and that is very annoying and happened to most lens owners I asked. It is not up to 85L in bokeh and L colors, it is also not weathersealed and Sigma not. Yes it is slower on AF than Sigma but that lens doesn’t meant to be fast.
Thanks Tony,
Your observations mirror mine, almost to a “T”, as my original 85L, and over the past couple years…my 85LII, has been my absolute FAVORITE lens in my arsenal. I, too, make my mortgage shooting weddings. The 85/35 combo is on my 5d2 the entire wedding…2nd camera with my 5d2 and 70-200v2…
I bought the Sigma 11 days ago locally. Shot two weddings and a massive, three day corporation trade show. I have a new favorite lens. Just placed an order for a second Sigma…for my wife’s kit:)
Thanks for taking the time. Genuinely appreciated. Happy Holidays to everyone!
J
Wonderful article, your time and effort are greatly appreciated.
There seems to be a lot of chromatic aberration from this lens. Would love to see a side by side comparison of these 2 lenses.
has anyone shot this one on a canon 50d. do you have any thoughts?? thanks!
or would you recommend investing in a prime lens or upgrading to a 5dii from a 50d. I am having a difficult time deciding where to invest my money at this point in time. i so appreciate any suggestions!
Thanks, Tony. I very much appreciate your time spent to help others with similar problems. And very well done, gave me all the hints I needed. I’ll get one.
regards, J.
Thanks for this review! I will have my 85 Sigma soon.
From one camera geek to another, I gotta say: Thanks for having the balls to speak your honest opinion. E”L”itism is overrated! It’s a shame that Sigma’s service (And QC from the factory) hinder some people from enjoying these products.
I’m BEGGING Sigma to make a 35 1.4 EX HSM next. I just tested the new Nikon 35 1.4 AFS while also testing the Sigma 85 1.4 and Nikn 85 1.4, and I gotta say, as sweet as all the Nikon / Canon name-brand primes are, Sigma is on a roll and I’m smitten. Sigma 85 + 35, please!
=Matt=
might be useful
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=756&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=397&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1
Thanks for a nice comparison. I will definitely buy the Sigma lens :-)
Thanks for taking the time to do this review. I’m gong to put an order in for this lens on Monday. Awesome!
Great review, I’ve just bought this lens as a result. Had the 85mm f1.8 but wanted the extra half a stop and couldn’t justify the 1.2 with it’s low light focus issues. Your first comment about looking right on camera is so true of course it’s a psychological thing but I’ve taken so much on this lens its unreal and I’m very happy. Thanks
Wow thank you tony :)
I am now trying to decide whether to get the sigma 85 or upgrade my mac book pro.
Also your web site has inspired me.
Very well said…An unbiased an honest review…Thank you!
Thanks for the detail review. Thanks for the effort.
I want to thank you for your great overview about Sigma 85mm 1,4 lens. Your words about this lens make me want to buy it … as I’m going to do!
recently, i tried to buy a sigma 85 1.4. i tried it in the shop on my d700, and the autofocus was not working. it made an horrible noise…
so, i refused to buy the lens (that had been ordered) and i am still waiting for another sample… after 3 months.
THEREFORE: try before buying!
you information and review was of great insight to me. i’ve been on the fence about this lens for some time. Since this post was done in November, do you still feel the same about this lens?
Very nice review- I have been considering this lens for Nikon for a while. I think you sold me.
Hi Tony,
I have an 85L right now and find it way to slow for focus,
It is my goto lens & gets me 60% of all the shots.
Have u had a chance to compare the Sigma 85mm with Canon 85L2 ?
Cause the L2 is supposed to be faster at focusing than the L1.
Really nice to see some real life shots with this lens at work rather than the photos of test charts we see elsewhere. I’m really debating between the canon 85 f1.2LII and the Sigma 85mm F1.4, I played with both last weekend and I was very impressed with both, the image quality was great and like you I agree the Sigma had better AF. Thanks for sharing.
Just ordered one of these yesterday. Didn’t have the budget for the Nikon 1.4g, but it sounds like this would probably be the better lens anyway if it’s that much nicer to use than the 85L. Thanks for the review
Absolutely exactly what I was looking for. a comparison review for these two lens. i might just go and get one sigma for myself. thanks heaps for your effort in putting this together.
- regards, kedR
Thanks for the review. Today I shipped my Sigma 85 back in exchange for another copy. I was pretty picky after your review of the lens. It was hitting about 66 percent, and I want 80 percent or better in focus. Awesome lens when it does hit! Weird thing I noticed. It hit focus nearly 100% of the time for up close, but when pulling back for a full body shot is when it was either soft or had some front focusing issues..even after using AF-ON button. Not sure if that’s common for this lens?
This is a 2010 review. Any new thoughts on the comparison of these two lenses Tony?
To Tom and others…. About 6 months ago the Sigma started getting very jumpy focus. As time went on, it got worse. I sent it to get fixed, but also looked into getting the 85L again. Once I did I realized that the Canon CPS turnaround time was worth it for me to keep the 85L. So I still love the Sigma and stand by the review, but usually use the 85L now…
very interesting review. I love my sigma, but i’m hesitant to say anything conclusively about it’s AF performance b/c I simply do not trust the AF system on my 5DII.
the image quality is fantastic, however.
Hi Tony. Thanks for such a detailed review. I’ve been considering my options for an 85mm and had heard good things about the Sigma but this is pretty definitive (although, sorry to hear that your copy got jumpy focus).
Hi Tony , Great review! I do have questions though.. I am in a big debate with myself over prime lenses 50 1.2 & 85 1.2 vs buying a 24-70 v2. I am hoping you have the 24-70 and can relay to probably many who are scratching their heads on this very subject. How does the 24-70 II stack up against these primes? (hope this is not too far off topic)
Not sure how old this is, but THANKS so much for this review. I just googled to get some reviews and just so happened that you reviewed it and you are my favorite photographers. I’m sold !